Adding Fuel to the Fire

The raucous, and mostly hyperbolic, debate over homosexual marriage has been shoved far back on the stove, on a setting below simmer, since the events of Abu Gharib came to light, and other sundry items of temporary national importance flared up.  Articles you read on this issue, now, mostly deal with the brush fires left burning after the initial match was thrown into the gas in San Francisco and other cities.  Reading a few blogs this evening, I stumbled into John Ray’s blog, and was pointed to an opinion piece in the News Weekly, an Aussie publication, written by one Dr. David van Gend, whose credentials you can read at the end of the piece I will soon link to.  van Gend, has been reading some of Dr. Robert Spitzer’s research conclusions regarding homosexuality, and what he has read, may cause a flame up in the homosexual community, and could be used as a flame thrower by those who oppose recognizing homosexual unions styled as marriages.  Two very short excerpts.

"The Titanic of Gay Rights, leaving all in its wake, is about to founder on a large and immovable fact."

...

"The iceberg of clinical fact looming up in the dark is this: that homosexuals who want to become heterosexual can and do change, as authoritative medical research has now demonstrated."

van Gend’s piece is titled “Shuffling deck chairs on the gay ‘Titanic’."

Via Dissecting Leftism.

Spitzer’s paper is not available online, but it can be ordered here for $25.00.

Posted by on 06/24 at 06:03 PM
  1. Interesting… But a great many of us don’t suffer at all from our same-sex attraction.

    Nope, we enjoy every minute of it.

    Posted by Jason Kuznicki  on  06/25  at  07:26 AM
  2. You might want to read this, too:

    http://www.ralliance.org/SpitzerStudy.html

    Here’s a relevant quote.  Of the 202 participants in the study cited in that editorial,

    “4) Based on self-reporting by the patients to Schroeder and Shidlo, 14% did manage long-term to either greatly reduce or completely stop homosexual practices. Of these, 5% were ‘struggling’. Another 5% reported being reasonably happy (almost all of this group were celibate).

    5) Only 4% (i.e. 8 patients) reported a shift in sexual orientation from 5 or more to 3 or less on a 1-7 scale of hetero/homosexual balance. Of these - the only ones who could perhaps be classified as ‘ex-gays’ - 7 out of 8 put down as occupation that they were ‘ex-gay’ counselors. The eighth person refused a follow-up interview. Obviously there is a serious conflict of interest/secondary gain issue among this group.”

    In other words, the 202 people were not all successful converts out of homosexuality.  So does ex-gay therapy work?  Maybe it does, but only for a very small number of people, who all happen to have a vested interest in saying that it does. 

    Posted by Jason Kuznicki  on  06/25  at  08:31 AM
  3. Jason -

    I had gathered, from reading van Gend’s piece, that the “success” rate was minimal, none-the-less, I found the results of the study interesting as the information flies in the face of the “it’s a biological given” that homosexuality is inborn.

    Posted by  on  06/25  at  08:44 AM

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